sunny
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Post by sunny on Aug 20, 2007 0:27:24 GMT -5
Ah, well I hardly think some of their judging is very fair. =/ Biiiassed people, they are. Yeah, I noticed that, hmm...
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sunny
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Last night I looked up at the stars and thought... Where the heck is the celing?!
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Post by sunny on Aug 21, 2007 2:14:15 GMT -5
21 for my ed edd n eddy char. -.-;;
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Post by elblooderino on Aug 21, 2007 19:54:55 GMT -5
You have a Camp Lazlo character?
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sunny
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Last night I looked up at the stars and thought... Where the heck is the celing?!
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Post by sunny on Aug 22, 2007 13:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by ex-ar luver345 on Jun 11, 2008 18:27:31 GMT -5
Kelsey got 120. 0.o;;;
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Post by Eclipse'd on Jun 11, 2008 18:38:51 GMT -5
Um...I think the lower the score the better in this case. I think Artemis is at about a 19. I haven't taken it for Apollo, but he's probably around the same.
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Post by levy120 on Jun 12, 2008 2:59:04 GMT -5
Claire got a 21... and to be honest, I expected more for a Crossovercharacter... xD
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Robbie Valiant, P.I.
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Jun 12, 2008 8:10:13 GMT -5
Robbie Valiant, my Roger Rabbit character, who was invented pretty much just to have a PI in modern Toontown, got 41. I think that's because the fic he's in, by its nature, was a crossover, and I counted both canons.
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Post by Blacksteel on Jun 12, 2008 12:57:10 GMT -5
I made my little sister take this test because I KNEW the character she wanted to make was a Mary Sue. And she got an abnormally high score. She got... 126!! Afterwards, I did the test myself for an original character I'm writing in an original story of mine and he got 63. There were some questions which amounted for double points and some which seemed to fit in his situation, but didn't exactly... Like the amnesia question. My character doesn't have amnesia but there are some things about himself that he had no idea of and he doesn't like when he finds out. So I didn't click the amnesia box itself but the ones underneath it. That amounted to four extra points. Is this test really reliable in such a case?
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ckret2
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Post by ckret2 on Jun 22, 2008 19:11:49 GMT -5
Is this test really reliable in such a case? Pfft, it's a Mary Sue test. It's NEVER reliable. I have fun plugging in characters that I know will get high scores simply because of the nature of who they are. Seeing as I'm writing a Zurg-is-Buzz's-father fic, for that connection to exist I have to invent a mother. I wouldn't be surprised if she's automatically a Sue just because she's the lover of one canon character and the mother of another. Let's put Leda Nemesis through the Mary-Sue Litmus... She gets a 42. A wonderful number, but it's only in the "Immediate workover is probably in order" category. How disappointing, I was SO hoping for over 50. Oh, well. Just for the lulz, I ran our favorite energy vampire through the test (using Part 1, Part 3, and Part 5, just... because that seemed to work best), and he scored a 41. Of course, it isn't a perfect score, since I don't know the writers' motivations in making him. How do I know if any of them wished they look like Nos-4-A2? Maybe I'll put Mira through later, she's definitely got "rebellious princess syndrome" and I saw a question for that go by...
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Post by ex-ar luver345 on Jun 22, 2008 19:29:18 GMT -5
I put XR through the test and he got a 34.
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Post by Eclipse'd on Jun 22, 2008 19:32:23 GMT -5
Hmm, I would think canon characters become exempt from the MS test seeing as how they are originally in the show. I'd think that test (and other similar ones) are designed for characters completely made up by fans only. It wouldn't really make sense to put a canon char through the test or most of them would get pretty bad scores.
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ckret2
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Post by ckret2 on Jun 22, 2008 20:36:23 GMT -5
Hey, canon characters can commit some of the same character sins as fan chars; think how annoying Buzz would be (best Ranger EVAR, awesome fighter, idolized by almost everyone good, never ever ever wrong) if he weren't played for laughs. I don't really think that Mary Sue tests are any less valid for canon characters than they are for fan characters; I just don't think they're valid, period. Besides, this MS test has a section specifically for original characters, for writers using their own canon. If we got hold of one, we could get get a BLoSC writer to feed the canon characters through the test. In absentia of any canon writers, it's not too hard to make up the answers they might've given.
If the only way to get a character with a perfect score is to have a character that stinks at fighting/strategizing/anything-ing, has no friends yet isn't disliked, looks so average they may as well be a blob that any readers will forget about in five minutes, came from a 100% bland background with a 100% bland family and lives a 100% bland life without anything distingishing about them at all, and never ever met or interacted with any of the canon characters... what the heck is the point in having the character?! Mary Sue litmus tests identify the symptoms, not the disease; not everyone who coughs has pneumonia.
So, why not put canon characters through the litmus test? It's just as valid for them as any other characters. If nothing else, it'll be good for a few laughs, which is all these tests are good for to begin with.
... With that big long rant that can basically be summed up as ckret2-doesn't-think-much-of-Mary-Sue-litmus-tests out of the way, I sent Buzz through the test and he got a 67. And that's even ignoring the whole Zurg-is-Buzz's-father gag that keeps popping up. He's well beyond the "kill it dead" threshold. I find it funny.
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Post by Eclipse'd on Jun 22, 2008 20:45:17 GMT -5
I can see your point as well, it makes sense. It's just when I'm reading a fic or something, I'm expecting Buzz Lightyear to be depicted as super-awesome grand hero of the universe that everyone loves because that's how he is. If the story then introduces some character that is "Exactly like Buzz Lightyear but a female who is also on his team and he's madly in love with her." Then that would be annoying >.<
I think those tests are helpful for people who have characters like that and want to make them a little more realistic, but each case is different so we can't take those things at face value either. I think it's more about a good balance than anything else.
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ckret2
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Post by ckret2 on Jun 22, 2008 21:49:24 GMT -5
I can see your point as well, it makes sense. It's just when I'm reading a fic or something, I'm expecting Buzz Lightyear to be depicted as super-awesome grand hero of the universe that everyone loves because that's how he is. If the story then introduces some character that is "Exactly like Buzz Lightyear but a female who is also on his team and he's madly in love with her." Then that would be annoying >.< I think those tests are helpful for people who have characters like that and want to make them a little more realistic, but each case is different so we can't take those things at face value either. I think it's more about a good balance than anything else. True--balance is the most important part. That, and good writing. In the right hands, almost anything can be pulled off. (I've seen a hundred Buzz-like characters in a hundred shows, movies, and books, and disliked almost all of them, but I like Buzz of BLoSC because of how he's written.) Now, if a character was introduced who was exactly like Buzz but female and was on his team and he was madly in love with her, I MIGHT buy it--assuming, of course, that this Buzzette was actually a perfect clone of Buzz whose Y chromosome had been replaced with a second X, created by Zurg to infiltrate Star Command as a Ranger with skills equal to Buzz's, and then joined onto his team in order to seduce Buzz and have him become completely distracted by Love for this Woman whom he can Totally Understand In Every Way Imaginable. So that Zurg could kill them both. Or, kill Buzzette and hope that Buzz goes all Romeo for his dead Juliet. I'd pay to see the look on Buzz's face when he discovers he's been dating his clone. "That's even worse than dating my sister would be!" (A line which practically requires a snarky XR comment like "Whoa, Buzz! You dated your sister?!") ... Well, that went off on a tangent.
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