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Post by ckret2 on Jun 25, 2008 13:55:37 GMT -5
I admit, when I was younger and watching for the first time, for a wild moment of NOS/Mira...but never thought of it seriously. It went something like giving NOS a girlfriend, and I was struggling to think of anyone, then finally came up with Mira. And I'm wondering if anyone feels that there may be a small little problem with Mira being the only main female character? Because I'm pretty sure I only thought of it when I was little since she was the only main girl around! I think half of the Mira pairings out there wouldn't exist if there were more female main characters in BLoSC. That's the main reason I used to like XR/Mira so much, just because I wanted him to be with SOMEONE (and I never saw the 42 episode). If it had occurred to me when I originally watched the series that Nos might want a girlfriend, I probably would have ended up sticking him with Mira, too. (Either that, or invented an energy vampire OC with a stupid name like Dra-Q-la, and stuck them together. ...Never mind that Dracula isn't a female name.) On the other hand, my struggling to think of a canon girlfriend for NOS probably expressed my more prevalent feeling then and now that generally, canon-wise, Nos is a decidedly unromantic character. Meaning, though I can and enjoy thinking about him in a platonic (even grudgingly friendly) relationship with some of the other characters, I can't really see him in a romance. Back then when I was little, it just translated to a majority of my thoughts being mostly concerned with how cool he was; NOS/Mira was fleeting and short. From about fifth grade on, until the puberty hormones subside enough that one can look objectively at a character, I think the quickest way most people prove the character's coolness is to hook them up with someone. ;D Taken from a robotic perspective, maybe a "romance" would be possible. Say, if something glitched in Nos's brain that made him obssessively want to be with or around someone, that MIGHT be interpreted as "love." (If "love" can come from a Stalker With A Crush.) Or if he were reprogrammed to be capable of love. But all this assumes that Nos isn't in his right mind when he falls in love/obsession/whatever, which may mean it doesn't count. As he is in canon, he's pretty uniformly asexual. Now, getting Mira to go along with it would just open a whole new can o' worms. Unless Nos was pulling a Mailer Daemon stunt and convinced Mira he was Romac or something. ... Okay, I'm now officially addicted to TV Tropes. Thanks, Kila.
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Post by Alohilani on Jun 25, 2008 17:35:47 GMT -5
Oh, you're welcome. :>
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Post by loony on Jun 25, 2008 22:07:51 GMT -5
Well, I can actually think of reasons that this pairing COULD work, but the most canon reason I can think of would be for NOS to use Mira to get to Star Command codes, or something else of importance.
O.O...I wrote that fic...
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Post by Alohilani on Jun 25, 2008 22:11:32 GMT -5
Mmm, I can't see why he'd bother when XR is sitting right there all wussy and vulnerable. And a computer he can hack into.
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Post by loony on Jun 25, 2008 22:23:06 GMT -5
I know...but who's to say that Star Command didn't NOS-Proof their computers after he took over the place?
And yes, I see that XR would be easier to get to, being a robot and all, but it was never established in canon that NOS can steal information as well as energy...and now that I'm thinking about it, why on earth would Star Command entrust XR with any Star Command codes anyway? Especially after what happened in "Downloaded"...
But I think that Mira might be worth the trouble because she's also the heir to the Tangean throne...although I'm still working on a reason why NOS would care about that...maybe to get to their technology or something...
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Post by ckret2 on Jun 25, 2008 22:26:29 GMT -5
the most canon reason I can think of would be for NOS to use Mira to get to Star Command codes, or something else of importance. Oh, so, Nos trying to seduce Mira in order to get classified info, or something like that? I tend to not see him as the seductive type, but if he were to do it, that WOULD be the best reason he'd even attempt something like that. Why Mira, though? I mean, besides the fact that she's pretty much THE major female character in Star Command. Mira would probably be the toughest one on Team Lightyear for Nos to crack, either with threats or with promises. (Buzz is right up there, though.) :-*Particularly with a seduction tactic, I can't see her falling for warm-and-fuzzy talk, especially from an enemy. Well, with the exception of Romac, but that's because they have a history together. If he were trying to lure info out of Rangers, he could also go after XR and maybe attempt to re-control him, since we saw in Dirty Work that Nos has definitely still got a lingering influence over him. Or go to Booster with a threat; give me codes or I'll drain your little robot friend dry. Of course, then he'd have to back up that threat, because Booster isn't dumb... Or, heck, maybe even 42, if he were going for a seductive tactic. He'd have a greater advantage with her, because there's no tricky robot/organic barriers to cross. 42 would certainly know a heck of a lot about Star Command, so she'd be a good target. And she strikes me as the type who'd be really attracted to a Dangerous Bad Boy anyway... Oh, gods, I did NOT need that idea. I HATE it when I give myself plotbunnies. But, um, anyway. Yeah. If Nos ever decided it was a good idea to seduce Mira to get codes for Star Command, that'd logically make some sense. The trouble is with why he'd think that's his best option, and how Mira would ever end up falling for it. Unless she DOESN'T fall for it, at which point things get a lot more fun. O.O...I wrote that fic... ... Oh, gods. Open mouth, insert foot. I had no idea, I swear. I just came up with the idea off the top of my head, I had no clue you'd done something like that. Man, I look like a real jerk now, don't I? I'm really sorry.
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Post by greedyslayer on Jun 25, 2008 22:29:20 GMT -5
I've also wondered if the apparent prevalence of Mira/Warp isn't due to the fact that they're both blue. ;D TvTropes is awesome. Oy, the subject of oc's--I swore I wouldn't think of romantic oc's for NOS, but an idea's been bugging--at least she wouldn't be vampiric as well--and it's only to pretty much transport another fandom pair into BLoSC, and for comedic purposes initially--so romantic comedy. Never mind, this isn't the place to discuss this anyway; is there a thread for actual BLoSC character/OC? Looking back, I kinda wish there were other main female characters in BLoSC...but, hey, looking back, I find I do like a Mira/Robot pair, Mira with XR (and that's all I'll say since this is the NOS/Mira thread; but I will mention I don't get Buzz/Mira, I prefer platonic, and isn't that sorta really cliche if they were to be together in that way--that, and I do think that Buzz may think she's too young for him *shrug*).
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Post by Alohilani on Jun 25, 2008 22:33:14 GMT -5
No, but you can go ahead and make one.
Eh, that's what OCs are for XP
Wins. Sorry, I'm going further off-topic. XD;
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Post by greedyslayer on Jun 25, 2008 22:33:52 GMT -5
Or, heck, maybe even 42, if he were going for a seductive tactic. He'd have a greater advantage with her, because there's no tricky robot/organic barriers to cross. 42 would certainly know a heck of a lot about Star Command, so she'd be a good target. And she strikes me as the type who'd be really attracted to a Dangerous Bad Boy anyway... Oh, gods, I did NOT need that idea. I HATE it when I give myself plotbunnies. I love it, especially the way you made an unconventional pair plausible as you went along, and OMG, I could actually the BLoSC making a canon episode like that, I really could...I think, down the line, I have to try that.
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Post by ckret2 on Jun 25, 2008 23:00:38 GMT -5
I love it, especially the way you made an unconventional pair plausible as you went along, and OMG, I could actually the BLoSC making a canon episode like that, I really could...I think, down the line, I have to try that. XD; For better or worse, my brain just combines stuff like that as it goes along... I really do wanna see a fic of that now, to see if the pairing really is plausible. But we're dragging this thread off-topic now. So, I made a new one. Nos/42 discussions can continue there, I guess.
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Post by loony on Jun 25, 2008 23:05:13 GMT -5
O.O...I wrote that fic... ... Oh, gods. Open mouth, insert foot. I had no idea, I swear. I just came up with the idea off the top of my head, I had no clue you'd done something like that. Man, I look like a real jerk now, don't I? I'm really sorry. Eh, s'okay. You must've read Kila's MFT3K fic, I let her use my fic for one of the chapters. Dra-Q-La was the name of my annoying sue. Sorry, Off-Topic...eh...I don't have anything worthwhile to post now...
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Post by ckret2 on Jun 25, 2008 23:12:02 GMT -5
... Oh, gods. Open mouth, insert foot. I had no idea, I swear. I just came up with the idea off the top of my head, I had no clue you'd done something like that. Man, I look like a real jerk now, don't I? I'm really sorry. Eh, s'okay. You must've read Kila's MFT3K fic, I let her use my fic for one of the chapters. Dra-Q-La was the name of my annoying sue. Sorry, Off-Topic...eh...I don't have anything worthwhile to post now... Nope, didn't see that fic; I just came up with the name Dra-Q-la off the top of my head, I had no idea it had been used. XD I wouldn't have used it as an example if I'd known someone else had come up with it. ... And we're STILL off-topic, aren't we? Well, that's enough of that.
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Post by greedyslayer on Jun 25, 2008 23:15:04 GMT -5
Well, on-topic: once read someone with the basic thought of Mira's dad and NOS-4-A2 oddly getting along, and I was really amused by that. XD
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Post by ckret2 on Jun 25, 2008 23:25:18 GMT -5
Well, on-topic: once read someone with the basic thought of Mira's dad and NOS-4-A2 oddly getting along, and I was really amused by that. XD Hmm... King Nova's definitely got a thing against outworlders, but does that extend to robots? From Mira's Wedding we know that Scar his advisor doesn't think much of XR, saying he apparently "does tricks," but do all Tangeans share that attitude, and do they feel that way about ALL robots or just robots like XR? Because if their disdain doesn't extend to robots, they COULD get along in an odd way. They could sneer at the lowly, crass Rangers together. Looks like if the pairing ever happened, the whole "take the boyfriend home to meet the parents" deal would go smoothly... With Mira sitting at the table stewing in annoyance while her father and Nos talk about what a simple brute her commanding officer Buzz is...
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Post by loony on Jun 25, 2008 23:25:51 GMT -5
I remember reading that too...it seems plausible...
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